I’ll prefix this by saying I’ve never really been a religious person. I can’t say that I’ve ever given much weight to any of the theories that are banded about regarding where we came from and what we’re doing here. I understand that the good book of whatever religion you choose to follow has a useful place in shaping our morals but I’ve never bought into the whole God is the creator thing.
I’ve been reading Allen Carr’s “Easy Way to Lose Weight”
Allen goes on to point out that even discounting the idea that God created everything and did it all in six days with a day to rest (wonder what he did after that – on the eighth day he was made redundant?) we must have come from somewhere. I’m willing to buy into Darwin’s theory of evolution, hell why not it seems to make sense, but there still is the question of where did that first speck of life come from. Even if you prescribe to the Big Bang theory…where did the component parts come from. You see, no matter how far back you go there’s always something else that came before it.
Then I was driving into work this morning and I realised that I was truly intrigued as to where all of this came from. What is the purpose of life and why did it come to exist? There must have been something first, above all else, the very, very first thing in the whole of whatever it is (let’s call it eternity for ease of understanding). It seems only right and convenient to call this something a God and worship that something because without it we simply wouldn’t exist.
So in around a hundred pages of a book that was designed to stop me eating crap and start eating only things that were intended for human consumption (in the eyes of the Creator) I have managed to completely reverse my opinions of religion. This really is powerful stuff…I hope it has the same effect on my sweet tooth.
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“There must have been something first”, why must there have been anything first? Surely beginnings and endings are nothing more than human constructs devised merely to enable us to get some sort of handle on our broader environment …
… if there must be a beginning, why must it begin with a ‘god’ of whatever description? Why must that ‘god’ have been benign? I would be far more willing to accept a theory on a ‘god’ if that theory said it was a sadist …
… again, I fear, that ‘god’ (of whichever description) is a human construct devised in order to provide a ‘place’ for said humans to exist, i.e. man’s place is under ‘god’, or perhaps under ‘gods’ chosen representatives. It all boils down to politics, imho.
I have more faith in ‘man’, whatever our wrongs, than in any ‘god’.
Ah, but you are thinking of god in the context of a being.
I am merely saying that there was clearly something first and for convenience and to give themselves a place in the history of ‘eternity’ people call that god, allah, whatever and choose to worship it.
Something can’t possibly come from nothing. A single cell consists of a number of component parts, each of which existed in it’s own right prior to being part of that cell. Don’t you wonder where they came from?
You can’t surely accept that all that existed before us was the single cell organism…that just can’t be, just the same as one being didn’t create man…because if he did where did that one being come from in the first place?
I won’t debate the issue; however, I would like to put out there that once you find faith and believe firmly in God the Creator there doesn’t seem to be an end to the understanding that may be imparted. Tolerance and understanding together make a mighty shield.
Jolene, based on your last comment it sounds like you agree with me … stuff always has been, if it’s not a ‘being’ then it’s just stuff. It doesn’t need to have a beginning, it just ‘is’.
Megger, without wishing to draw you into a debate, I’m not quite sure what you’re saying when you say “once you find faith and believe firmly in God the Creator there doesn’t seem to be an end to the understanding that may be imparted” – any chance of a bit of rephrasing? It’s the last part that throws me
No Alasdair, you’ve got me all wrong. Stuff can’t just ‘be’…there must be a beginning…without one where did the stuff come from?
Meggers, I’m not sure what you’re saying either. When I talk about religion I’m not talking about christianity or the belief in God the Creator. Forgive me if I’m wrong but you seem to have drawn the conclusion that I’ve found God (in the christian meaning of God). This isn’t the case at all…I don’t believe in worshipping a being. I’ve come to realise that there must have been a beginning and I wonder what that is…that’s all. Religion is purely the belief that something went before…not necessarily the worship of a god.
What I find interesting in this subject is that we are looking for order in chaos- life is chaotic, the Universe is choatic but that doesn’t stop us from saying there must be a start, a middle and an end some sort of order going on here.
Maybe when we try to put these events in order we have to re-think the ‘layout’.
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Just had another thought:
There are beginnings and endings, but they are not the beginning or ending
Ah, so you do agree with me that there was a beginning
No dear. Please do try to read what I’ve written, rather than just looking at it … I said:
“… they are not the beginning or ending.”
I did not say:
” … there is a beginning or ending”.
Whilst similar they are not the same, there meanings are not the same
Ooo nippy. Who’s the guy that does the saga insurance adverts…I have the image of him in mind when I read your comment…Michael Winner!
If you say they are not the beginning or ending that infers that you appreciate that there is a beginning or ending.
Appreciating that there are beginnings and endings is not the same as saying that everything has a beginning and ending. You would seem to concur anyway so I’m not sure what your point is, see below:
Jolene said “Something can’t possibly come from nothing”. So you agree there can’t be a beginning then? even nothing would be something that can’t have existed without their having been something … indeed the last time I checked even where ther is ‘nothing’ there was something.
In the words of somebody who had something to do with Monty Python…My Brain Hurts…which I guess if you’re really that interested in winning or losing a debate means you have won round one. But be warned…I’m reading the book again!